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Alex, good to have you back.

Let's dive in if we can to HHS being run by RFK Jr.

If this one goes, well, actually, before I get to the what he'll do,

how much resistance do you think there really is from the machine?

Is it almost Gates level or substantially less in your mind?

No, no, it's at least Gates level.

I mean, there's going to be at stake here.

Yeah, I mean, this is a big deal.

I mean, you know, this is a trillion-dollar agency, and, you know, he's going to be taking

on one of the most powerful industries in the United States and the world.

I think that that President Trump or President-elect Trump will appoint him with a recess appointment, if. Yeah. Which might be necessary.

I think, I think, I mean, listen, the Gates thing is interesting because I think that's

a lot of it's driven seemingly personally, the people just, do not like him on Capitol

Hill, but this one is much more substantive.

So what do you think about, like, what are the good things that he could do?

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