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Evan & Tiki

Hour 1: This Is How the Giants Can Become the Next Patriots

Evan & Tiki

Audacy

Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

With Super Bowl week as the backdrop, the conversation zooms out to the big picture question every New York fan is asking: how close are the Giants and Jets really? The Giants are front and center as the hosts draw direct parallels to the Patriots’ rapid turnaround, from a young quarterback in Jaxson Dart to proven leadership under John Harbaugh. The similarities to New England Patriots and Drake Maye are hard to ignore, and the case is made that a double digit win jump is very realistic for the New York Giants. The focus then shifts to the Jets and why their path feels much longer. Using the Seattle Seahawks as the model, the discussion centers on building the roster first and finding the quarterback last, a formula that worked with Geno Smith and now Sam Darnold. The question becomes whether Aaron Glenn can make a similar year two leap to what Mike McDonald did in Seattle, or if the New York Jets are still years away. Along the way, the hosts debate whether there is one true formula to building a contender, why quarterback obsession can be misleading, and how close being close actually matters. Plus, Tiki Barber weighs in on just how well coached Seattle really is, and the show wraps with some very human locker room talk that only Super Bowl week can inspire.

Transcript

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0:00.0

One thing, and maybe this is me trying to be a hopeless romantic, Tiki, as we get set for Super Bowl 60, and we analyze the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks, I try to squint my eyes a little bit and try to see, is there anything about these teams that would give me more hope for the teams that we root for?

0:19.1

Right.

0:19.4

And I think in the case of your team, it's a little bit easier because you look at the New

0:23.9

England Patriots and you can kind of see the Giants.

0:27.5

They've got the young quarterback in Jackson Dart.

0:30.3

They had the young quarterback in Drake May.

0:32.6

They brought in the established head coach.

0:34.8

You guys brought in the even more established head coach. And yeah,

0:39.0

you need some luck along the way. And I take nothing away from the Patriots. Yes, they've had a lot

0:43.2

of luck. But look, luck's a part of sports. So starting with the Giants only because it's just easier

0:48.6

to squint my eyes and see it, I can see how a year from now the New York Giants could be the New England Patriots.

0:55.2

The New York Giants are playing this the smart way and you don't even need to squint your eyes to see it.

1:02.7

It almost is the exact formula that the New England Patriots followed.

1:07.8

That is find your quarterback, however you have to find your quarterback.

1:11.6

They found him also similarly to Drake May and the draft. He was not a top pick, but whatever.

1:16.6

He's proven that he's worthy of being a first round quarterback and probably one of the young,

1:21.6

hot ones in the league. You got some skill position players, not a ton. The Patriots don't,

1:26.8

but you have some.

1:27.7

The Giants have a good run game, like the Patriots have a good run game, and you play sound defense.

1:33.0

Now, the Giants didn't do that a lot last year.

1:35.2

I think a lot of that can change under DeNard Wilson as they get a little bit more modern

1:40.1

and how they bring pressures and are smart behind.

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