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This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast.

So that was, um, interesting, right?

Because you could hear those seeds being planted of what ultimately would become the ethos of Trump's run to the presidency, which is, yeah, who cares if what I'm saying isn't true as long as the people agree with me?

Bertherism, who cares?

There are plenty of people who are happy I'm asking the question.

And that basically became what Trump's

run to the presidency would ultimately become. And it's pretty wild to hear the seeds of that be

planted on the Dan Lebiton show with Stugats. I'm laughing so I don't cry. that was 2013 through the local hour in the big suey

what you're going to hear now is a longer full session of an interview from september of

2014 so september 18th 2014 if you want to look up what the NFL controversies

were around that time, you pause this right now and go try to look that up. You'll hear what

Trump has to say as he also discusses his friendship with Roger Goodell, all the credit he believes he deserves for the success of the USFL, why he didn't like shaking hands because I kid you not from Mr. COVID vaccines don't need to exist.

He didn't want to catch a cold.

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