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This is the Don Levertars show with this two-gots podcast.

I'd like to get maximum informed on this PGA Live atrocity

and Ellen Shipnuck has been on with us.

He's been on stupidity. He is a foremost expert, not just because he was 25 years

long-time golf writer for Sports Illustrated, not just because he's the executive editor

of a new golf media company called The Fire Pit Collective.

He wrote the book on Phil Mickelson called Phil.

It made a lot of headlines and Phil called the Saudis, quote, scary mother bliepers,

and quote, and now he's got a new book out coming this fall, which has just been ruined or made better.

It, well, I should say, it's in rewrites because you could pre-order it right now,

live and let die the inside story of the war between the PGA tour and live golf.

But it has changed, that book has changed a lot in the last 24 hours.

So, Ellen, thank you for joining us.

Let's start here.

How surprised were you?

Because I'm unsurprised that greed wins.

I'm unsurprised that morality has no place in sports.

But they're keep telling me here that this is a shocker.

And I'm like, how can you be surprised that greed always wins in sports?

Yeah, money remains undefeated.

We know that.

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