This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats podcast.

I've admired this guy's work for a long time.

He writes exceptionally well about rock music, pop culture, but really the state of society.

Zaz said he's read Klosterman books.

Yeah, and I don't read.

Well, I know.

That was surprising to me, the highest honor. I've seen Klosterman making. Yeah, and I don't read. Well, I know. That was surprising to me,

the highest honor. I've seen Klosterman making the rounds here selling the book. It's called football, so that should sell. Of course, that's going to be New York Times bestseller. Just put football on anything, it'll sell. But if this guy's writing, it'll also sell. And I have not read the entirety of the book, but I want to play a game with you to make this a little different, Chuck,

because I know you're getting... sell and I have not read the entirety of the book, but I want to play a game with you to make

this a little different, Chuck, because I know you're getting asked some of the same questions.

Okay.

Do you mind if we play a game of What the Chuck?

Well, let's see what happens.

All right.

We'll start with an easy one.

Football wasn't the original title of your book. What the Chuck?

Was it true or false or you asked me what the original title was? Just what the Chuck?

Yeah, we could have been better at explaining. I think the initial title, the very first one,

was dangerous but worth the risk, which is also the title of a rat song. But yeah, I think

that was the initial.

Then I went through a few iterations.

Then I went with football, had a bunch of subtitles,

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