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Doug good morning how you I'm good you have made a healthy living healthy living off of stating a hard truths some that most of America believes some that America does not coming off of Monday night football what is the hard truth who's where where's it so so quiet you can hear a mouse you're an example on all those former players who believed that you didn't need any coach and experience and that.

Jeff Saturday higher was the correct higher and they were hoping in wishing the cold to have in one Doug but I'll tell you who won the coach in profession is one because the culture of mess Jeff Saturday has

been a disaster and I'm quietly they won't say it I remember Bill Cauer on CBS he first ripped the Jeff Saturday higher and then of course he won his first game over the Raiders remember that and everybody was waving the pom pom you know your dad was a coach right Doug come

further to coach is been okay so you know what I mean to come from a coach and family and it was a narrative that you didn't know none of that matter you don't need to just need to be a leader of men and and have you played the game people

respected now there's some coaching involved and so I think the Jeff Saturday experiment has set that back and that the coach in profession why they might not

load about it or talk about it they're very happy that he's been a colossal failure. Yeah the problem with that is we're talking the same day that Nathaniel Hackett was fired and he was as prepared as any human could be for the job and he just wasn't good enough so I'm

not going to argue with you that the Saturday thing especially the past couple weeks that the roof is falling in they were very competitive you know and found ways to lose leads it's not a good football team and maybe that's maybe that's

what all of this does is it it's like a bait and switch we didn't even realize like they don't have a left tackle that clearly don't have a quarterback there's so many positions they're not very good outside the numbers of wide receivers and yet people were myself included in on the cults potentially you know winning that

division obviously before the first coaching change I would look I would push back against you do are there things that you need to learn and coaching absolutely as a guy who interviewed for coaching jobs without

head coaching experience I can tell you that I fully aware there are things you only learn from doing but the the flaw to the argument of well see you got to have coached in order to know how to

coaches OK so what's what do we do with it in the thing you have to deal that was a coach grow up doing it everybody swore by him and it just I mean again on the same day he gets fired well well the

argument is simple everybody's not going to be successful even if they take the steps that's not my argument I mean just because you did do all that doesn't mean everybody can't be successful people are going

to lose right good coaches are going to lose big games Marty shot in highmer lost a lot of big games when he was a head coach and other guys were lifetime coaches so it's not that it was just the idea

that other people should skip the line and not put in any work and I get it it's happened in the NBA where a couple guys I remember when Larry bird got hired but they gave him Rick Carlisle and Dick Harder you

know like as he didn't give him they didn't give that's like that's honestly the best point anybody could make is like look and this is with the

annual hack it right the guy who takes over for the thing and hack it is the guy hired out of retirement to help manage the game that

something Doug even after week one that you had to hire that guy I mean yes I was yes but but but here's the thing yes of course it is like

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