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Hello and welcome.

It's our number one, hour number one of our radio program. Before we tell you what's coming up this hour a programming

note the fifth hour will drop today the fifth hour with ben maller that is original audio

content for the weekend now you're going to listen to hour number one hour two hour three hour four

of this show but on the fifth hour very interesting conversation with a gentleman who has spent the past 10 years of his life as an investigative reporter investigating the Penn State story.

Remember the Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno story, and some findings by John Ziegler.

That's the gentleman's name.

He's a political pundit.

He's a documentary maker, a podcaster, former talk radio host, senior columnist,

and he joins us on the fifth hour today.

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