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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Hotter Seas, Higher Tensions

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Climate change doesn’t just mean dire consequences for food, water, human migration and long-term human survival. As the seas heat up they create critical security issues, from impacts on military sonar to spikes in turbulence threatening commercial flights, from new theatres of war to suddenly fragile states and strengthened terrorist groups. Are we ignoring a new source of global instability? Emma Beals talks to New Scientist’s environment reporter Madeleine Cuff about why the oceans are warming and where – and asks Pentagon advisor, strategist and Polar Institute fellow Sherri Goodman about why hotter, more dangerous seas are a “threat multiplier”. • Support This Is Not Drill on Patreon to continue by backing us on Patreon. You’ll get early, ad-free editions, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Emma Beals. Audio production by Robin Leeburn and Tom Taylor. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production podmasters.co.uk ENDS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's 2024. We can use robots to clean our flats,

0:05.6

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0:10.4

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over beyond. The The Of all the things going on in the world, the thing keeping me up at night might seem unlikely.

1:05.0

The hot seas.

1:07.0

Ocean temperature has broken with averages since March last year.

1:10.0

Well worrying perhaps is the fact that it's surprising everyone.

1:13.2

The deviation is sharper and faster than modeled and it might represent a

1:17.2

critical turning point in the climate breakdown.

1:19.4

Rather than being an existential or horizon problem, this is likely to bring the impacts of climate crisis

1:25.8

into our everyday lives quicker than we imagined. And it has impacts for our security,

1:30.6

from impacting the workings of submarine sonars and other military equipment to making

1:35.3

commercial flights less safe. So why are the seas getting hotter? What does it mean? And why do

1:40.8

hot seas make us all less safe?

1:44.0

I'm immobiles and this is not a drill. Oh, The ocean captures more than 90% of the imbalance of energy that we're creating globally.

2:14.0

We're doing extremely poorly at reducing our carbon footprint and the ocean is taking up the slack.

2:20.0

And while the impact of heating oceans could cause major events like the collapse of currents that maintain our delicately balanced ecosystem,

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