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In the world of celebrity interviews there's spicy talk and then there's hot ones

the YouTube show where famous people answer questions while eating increasingly hot

chicken wings is a phenomenon and if the show is a phenomenon.

And if the show is a phenomenon, Conan O'Brien is its most recent high achiever.

In fact, he might be the best guest ever.

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Dairy farmer Tyler Webb shares how he and his family work with nature to manage

challenges on the farm.

When I think of land stewardship, it's taking the opportunity to like slowly walk

through your farm, to listen, to try to observe subtle patterns.

When you're not reliant upon pesticides and herbicides and things to navigate your way through farming,

you're looking for ways to work in harmony with our ecosystem.

From a pesticide perspective, you know, flies can be a concern and so a lot of this bird habitat we have on the farm is because we're looking for tree swallows.

They just cruise around all day long and eat flies.

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