There’s an unfortunate paradox for environmental podcasts; data shows a lot of people skip segments about the climate. But also… it’s the CLIMATE! We can’t NOT talk about it, right?  So how do we break through the malaise and make climate news feel less overwhelming? More surprising? Less depressing? In this episode, we round-up a handful of stories that we hope break the mold and make climate a more approachable topic for everyday discussion.  We’ll look at a third-rail of environmental activism, hear about an unlikely, middle-of-the-night climate deal at COP27, and learn about one place where producing less renewable energy might just be the best thing for the environment. Featuring Cara Buckley, Naveena Sadasivam, and Gillian Flaccus   SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Subscribe to our FREE newsletter. Follow Outside/In on Instagram or Twitter, or join our private discussion group on Facebook   LINKS Earth Now Has 8 Billion Humans. This Man Wishes There Were None. By Cara Buckley for The New York Times.(For more on population, you can read Are 8 billion people too many — or too few? and Should you not have kids because of climate change? It’s complicated. And you should also listen to our two-parter on this very subject: So Over Population [Part 1] and So Over Population [Part 2]) Inside the COP27 fight to get wealthy nations to pay climate reparations, by Naveena Sadasivam for Grist ‘Momentous:’ US advances largest dam demolition in history, by Gillian Flaccus for the Associated Press News Roundup: U.S. reaches a fusion power milestone. Will it be enough to save the planet? (NPR) The surprising player in the rail strike fight: Fossil fuel companies (Grist) Why knowing your neighbors could save you in the next climate disaster (The Guardian)   CREDITS Host: Nate Hegyi Reported, produced, and mixed by Felix Poon Edited by Taylor Quimby, with help from Nate Hegyi, Justine Paradis, and Jessica Hunt.  Rebecca Lavoie is our Executive Producer Music for this episode by Blue Dot Sessions, Jharee, and Blackout Memories.  Our theme music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices