This is Sirens and new series brought to you by the ladies of bombshell, where we dissect the institutions of American power.

Join us as we sound the alarm on technology, governance, and national security issues,

and sometimes lure their men to their deaths. And apparently, we also talk about climate.

Because while you are listening to this episode, I'm asking you, just take a few minutes.

Check out our mini episode with Aaron Zikorski on her new book, Climate Change on the Battlefield,

which is an awesome exploration of how climate change reshapes military operations and the

roles of militaries in responding to the climate crisis.

I'm Lauren DeYoung Schulman.

I'm Erin Simpson.

And I'm Roda I and Garplum.

Speaking of listening, I love when listeners come to me and say like, hey, I've listened to your

podcast. I love your podcast because that's delightful. So definitely tell us that. What I really love

is they almost always comment and I listen to it at 1.0 speed, which I think is meant to be a compliment.

It is. It is. But tell my mom what we mean by that, Lauren.

Like, listening to the speed at which we are actually speaking out loud, I am able to listen

to us at 1.75, but that's possibly because I am used to listening to ourselves.

Well, also, you were there when we said it, so you're really just listening for the flubs.

You're not actually trying to hear us.

Yes.

I confess when I listen to, there's other podcasts that I listen to at 1.75 that by the end of it, I just have to recognize.

I definitely learned some vocabulary words in that podcast and maybe not much else.

I need to go back to 1.5, I think is my takeaway. Do you guys have like a preferred?

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