Horror in Israel and Gaza - What next?
Radical with Amol Rajan
BBC
4.5 • 919 Ratings
🗓️ 12 October 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Listen to Amol and Nick reflect on the Israel and Gaza conflict as they talk about what it might mean for the wider world. They talk to Martha, who’s spent much of this week presenting Radio 4’s Today from Jerusalem. The former chief of MI6, Sir Alex Younger is in ‘The Today Podcast’ studio giving his take on intelligence failures in the region and discussing his fears for what will happen next.
Plus Nick’s spent the week at Labour Party conference in Liverpool. Find out what he and Amol made of Sir Keir Starmer’s speech and his interview on Today and Jane Green professor of politics at Oxford University is back with the latest polling.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.7 | It's the worst massacre of Jews since the Second World War. |
| 0:09.8 | Israel and Gaza, those sacred slivers of earth in the Middle East, |
| 0:13.9 | are bearing witness to the most extreme horror and bloodshed, |
| 0:18.0 | and the worst could be yet to come. |
| 0:20.0 | The stories we're hearing are tough to listen to. |
| 0:22.9 | The image is painfully hard to watch. |
| 0:25.2 | But what is happening in the Middle East matters hugely |
| 0:27.4 | and not just to the people living there. |
| 0:30.5 | We're going to do what the Today podcast was set up to do |
| 0:33.2 | to take a step back and ask this question. |
| 0:37.1 | Horror in Israel and Gaza, what next? |
| 0:40.0 | Let's do it. |
| 0:53.6 | Nick, we're back. It's week two of the Today podcast, and you're in Salford again this week. |
| 0:58.5 | I've been to the Labour Party conference all week in Liverpool, but by now they're packing up the newsroom. |
| 1:04.3 | They're emptying those porter cabins that we use as studios. |
| 1:07.3 | We'll reflect on an interview I did in Liverpool with the Labour leader, Keier Stama, as well as talking about the events in the Middle East. You are all. You're in London. Yes, I'm in the Today podcast studio. We had a conversation this morning about how we're going to lead this podcast and we just cannot ignore the scale of events in the Middle East. And Martha has been in Jerusalem for us reporting from there |
| 1:27.9 | this week and it's probably right for us to start with her. How are you actually doing it day-to-day? |
| 1:31.9 | What's the setup that you've got there? We've been broadcasting from the BBC's Bureau in |
| 1:38.5 | Jerusalem. There's a small studio there operated by my producer, Sam Hack. She's been operating the desk. She's been |
| 1:46.6 | recording our packages as we go out and about and then staying up very late at night to edit |
| 1:51.6 | them, to get them on air. Martha, it is one thing to hear, to see the dreadful pictures |
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