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This Jungian Life Podcast

Horror as a Mirror: What Netflix’s MONSTER Makes Us See

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

DREAM WITH US, and we’ll teach you how to interpret them!⁠

The new controversial Netflix series MONSTER: The Ed Gein Story offers a window into the devouring mother archetype, a transformation fantasy gone horribly wrong, and the human capacity for monstrous behavior. Gein’s crimes inspired the Hitchcock movie Psycho, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Silence of the Lambs. It challenges the audience to confront its fascination with evil and begs the question, where do the monsters hide in our own Psyche? To help us wrestle with these questions, we’re joined by Joey Pollari—actor, musician, director, editor, and the man who plays Anthony Perkins in the show. We’ll explore how intimacy with darkness affects a performer, how public persona and private pain intersect, and why we continue watching when the camera reveals what we’d rather not know. Trigger warning: this episode discusses violence, death, criminality, and severe mental illness.


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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:04.2

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

0:09.7

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:19.4

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee,

0:24.9

and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst,

0:31.1

and Cape Cod.

0:50.9

Thank you. The new controversial Netflix series, Monster, the Ed Gein story, offers a window into the devouring mother archetype, a transformation fantasy gone horribly wrong,

0:57.2

and the human capacity for monstrous behavior.

1:01.1

Gein's crimes inspired the Hitchcock movie Psycho, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Silence

1:08.1

of the Lands.

1:09.9

It challenges the audience to confront its fascination with

1:13.5

evil and begs the question, where do the monsters hide in our own psyche? To help us wrestle with

1:22.1

these questions, we're joined by Joey Polari, actor, musician, director, editor, and the man who plays Anthony Perkins

1:31.4

in the show.

1:33.2

We'll explore how intimacy with darkness affects a performer, how public persona and private

1:39.8

pain intersect, and why we continue watching when the camera reveals what we'd rather not know.

1:48.0

Trigger warning, this episode discusses violence, death, and conversion therapy.

1:55.0

So, yeah, Joey, how did you find your way into Jungian work and your interests and all of that?

2:03.7

I think it must have been my older brother who he studied psychology in school.

2:10.8

And then because I've been an actor since I was a kid, it was always sort of natural to be interested in psychology in general. Then I started

2:21.2

reading some books. I can't remember which is the first that started it off. But I started reading

2:27.4

some books about young. I had man and his symbols. Then my dreams changed.

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