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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

HORROR 911 AUDIO OF TRAIN-STAB VICTIM REVEAL IRYNA’S FINAL MOMENTS, ‘BLOODY & HOPELESS’

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

News, True Crime

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Iryna Zarutska, a Ukrainian refugee, came to the United States with her family to escape her war-torn country for a better life. Iryna took English classes, had a job and was making a productive life for herself, but all her aspirations were cut short by an unprovoked violent attack from a man with a criminal history. 

Video shows Iryna getting on the train in Charlotte North Carolina, taking a seat and looking at her phone quietly. Video shows a passenger sitting directly behind Iryna, who we later came to know as Carlos Brown Jr. A close-up of Brown's hands can be seen opening and unfolding the knife in order to prepare to stand up to stab Iryna. Although Iryna's hat covers a lot of her face, the shock in her eyes, along with the terror she silently expressed during her final moments of life, bleeding out, surrounded by panic is heartbreaking to watch. 

Video also shows Brown, in an orange hoodie, walking the aisles of the train with blood dripping on the floor. One passenger notices blood drops and avoids stepping in it, while another witness on the phone with 911 tells them a man just stabbed a woman for no reason and she needs help. 

Moments after allegedly stabbing Iryna, Brown is captured on video non-chalantly walking the platform of the train station. On the train, Brown was wearing a hoodie, now he is wearing a black t-shirt, with the now bloody hoody, wrapped around his hands.

In reaction to the shocking and violent death of Iryna Zarutska, North Carolina Governor Josh Stein just signed "Iryna's Law" into effect increasing checks on criminals getting out on bail and prohibits cashless bail for some violent crimes and most repeat offender.

A Grand jury indicted Brown for murder of Iryna formally charging him with first-degree murder. Brown is being held without bond in the County jail, but an order was filed for him to be committed to Central Regional Hospital. Allegedly he has been diagnosed with schizophrenia and also has a lengthy rap sheet of criminal behavior. 

Joining Nancy Grace today,

  • Randy Kessler -  Atlanta Trial Lawyer, Emory Law School Professor, Past Chair ABA Family Law Section, Author: "Divorce, Protect Yourself, Your Kids and Your Future", www.KSFamilyLaw.com, Instagram: @rkessler23, Twitter: @GADivorce
  • Caryn Stark -  Forensic Psychologist, renowned TV and Radio trauma expert and consultant, www.carynstark.com, Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice  
  • Andy Kahan - Director of Victim Services and Advocacy at Crime Stoppers of Houston, crime-stoppers.org  
  • Ron Bateman - Former homicide detective, former undercover narcotics agent, former sheriff. Author crime fiction series, “Silent Blue Tears”, and now soon to be released his newest book with Billy Joe Nichols, “opposing sides, memoirs of a drug dealer and a detective”, Website: Ronbatemanbooks.com , TikTok: @Ron.Bateman.655
  • Dr. Thomas Coyne - Chief Medical Examiner, District 2 Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida; Forensic Pathologist, Toxicologist, Neuropathologist; X: @DrTMCoyne
  • Susan Hendricks - Journalist, Author: “Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi", IG @susan_hendricks X @SusanHendicks  
  • Dave Mack - Crime Stories, Investigative Reporter 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:04.6

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:10.4

The horror, 9-1-1 audio, the train-stabbing victim, Irena, reveals her final desperate moments and what is described by witnesses

0:26.8

as a bloody and hopeless scene. Can anybody say death penalty? I'm Nancy Grace.

0:37.6

This is crime stories.

0:38.8

I want to thank you for being with us.

0:41.1

This is Charlotte 911.

0:41.9

1.1 do you need to fire a medic?

0:43.5

We only understand this man.

0:45.1

You just f***ed this woman for no reason.

0:48.5

I would say right to talk him.

0:50.1

Why did Irina have to die?

0:53.4

Stabbed dead on public transportation?

0:57.0

I was dead like the daughter.

0:58.0

You said a mail staff someone for no reason?

1:01.0

Do they need medicine?

1:02.0

Yeah, so the train.

1:03.0

Yes, the fucking bleeding.

1:04.0

Okay, you know, I was a medic.

1:06.0

She's got to show this.

1:07.0

The community still reeling.

1:10.0

Now, what makes this murder different from other murders? I'm about to

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