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you know Hello, everyone, Stakuya here.

And I'm Gabi.

And welcome back to the podcast, my hoes.

Welcome back.

And, okay, before it as we begin, I need to specify a couple things here from the get-go.

If I sound off during any of this, I apologize.

Currently, I am recovering from sickness, and on top of that, we are actually moving,

or at least prepping to move, so we have spent the last several days taking our house completely apart,

and we are utterly exhausted, to the point that I actually did not write

this script. The whole thing that this comes from is actually from our editor, James Lopez,

who has been so kind as to grace us with the script that we are going to be reacting to in a way

that is similar to Debbie, have you ever seen business plays with Simon Whistler?

No. No.

No, okay, okay.

Just genuinely, fun show.

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