So I mean it's Christmas. It's the day after Christmas I guess when people are listening to this.

Yes it is everyone is exhausted and maybe still full and like all they want to do is what hear us

talk and their earholes well maybe they're tired of reading all the books they got as

gifts it's true well maybe they got IED his gifts. That would be amazing.

If I had never read these books,

and I had this podcast to listen to,

I would absolutely have asked Santa

for all the IID books.

Okay, Sarah, let me ask you a question. Do people give you gifts that are books? No. Me neither. No they're too afraid.

And I feel like it's such low-hanging fruit. Like what?

Get me a book everybody.

I'm easy.

Every once in a while so like if there's a, if there's like an art book or

or if there's an artist I'm interested in or if we've gone to some show in New York and there's a book related to it

Sometimes Eric will edge into giving me a book. There you go.

So I'm a little bit of obsessed and this will come as absolutely no surprise to you,

Jen, but I'm a little bit obsessed with Great British Bakeoff.

And I'm actually a terrible baker, but I like to watch like delightful English people bake.

So I actually, you know I don't like cooking, I do like baking.

See? So maybe we are in fact fated made.

So every season of Great British Bake-off, they do a pie week where they have to make these like meat pies these like traditional

British meat pies and I've been talking since I've watched the last one where

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