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Just the other night, I was watching Tucker Carlson.

He has been doing some genuinely heroic things lately. If there's anything that you don't want to miss,

it's probably his program. And he had on someone I've seen before, Horace Cooper. Horace Cooper has a new book out

called How Trump is Making Black America Great Again. Horace Cooper is with Project 21. Horace Cooper is, was legal counsel to

Congressman Dick Army, and he's my guest right now. Horace, welcome. Hey, it's great to be on the

program. Well, what you said the other night on Fox News struck me as important. We're living in outrageous times.

Anybody with any sense of history understands that the division and the cynicism on the hard left right now, the nihilism,

trying to piggyback on racial grievances. It is so ugly that we have to speak loudly and

clearly and help people understand what is happening because obviously the mainstream media

has died. So I was so grateful for you. I want to hear your version of where we are now. Um, you, it seems to me, uh,

you've been a black man most of your life. Is that right? Well, pretty much since conception,

I think. You know, that's, that's fascinating. So you, um, you speak from a different point of view, one from which I certainly cannot speak.

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