This is holes to heavens, a space where I attempt to capture all the sound, language and stories, as they pertain to what I find most interesting, which is Cosmos,

Mythos, and to Psyche.

And I'm your host, Adam Summer. And welcome to another podcast. I'm recording on July 25 of 22 and you're about to hear a discussion that I had with the

legendary Anne Baring about hope, the goddess, big ages, chunks of time, and I've been in her biography as well, which is really

inspiring.

Ever since I first visited the UK and learned about Anne, I wanted to have around, and it finally happened under the Capacorn full moon that happened recently.

And so I'm still here in Shamarmony. It's hot like it is in most of Europe.

In fact, every night, and it's strange how it happens at night, I suppose, you can hear the glaciers falling apart. It sounds like fireworks. It makes

sense that the original settlers here felt that there was dragons up in those mountains because it is it's loud it's ominous

it makes me very happy that I'm not camping up there near them and it's beautiful

thing though in a dark sense that you can just see these glaciers right out the window. I'm talking and staring at them and then slowly over time we have our proof of some change, some sort of a warming.

It's hilarious, there's even a argument about it, but here for another month and definitely loving it. It's been nice to have a

summer in the mountains and yeah to have conversations like this at the same time so I'm into it. If you're not familiar with Anne I was I was so

pleased to hear her mention Richard Tarnas when we got to talking about hope. In fact on her website there's a little snippet that Rick wrote for her and he says about Anne that she has devoted her life to humanity's recovery of the

Animamundi that is the soul of the world and indeed its own soul and so they obviously have a background and adore each other and any

friend of Richards is a friend of the show in my opinion and so yeah if you

resonate with them make sure to get some of her books.

The Dream of the Cosmos is the one I have.

I also actually have a digital copy of the Myth of the Goddess that she wrote with Jules,

which you'll hear about.

But you can go to Ann Baring.com and Peru's. She has a lot of YouTube videos as well that you can watch.

And yeah, I hope that you enjoy this conversation real quick. A couple bits of news.

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