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🗓️ 11 May 2025
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Peter Adamson, and you're listening to the History of Philosophy podcast, brought to you with the support of the philosophy department at King's College London |
0:21.1 | and the LM, online at history of philosophy.net. Today's episode, Ghost in the Machine, |
0:29.0 | Cartesian dualism. If you ask a modern-day philosopher to explain Cartesian dualism, |
0:36.9 | they'll tell you it is a theory about |
0:38.4 | the mind. The Cartesian, impressed by the uniqueness of consciousness, postulates a mind, |
0:44.8 | self, or soul that is a substance in its own right, and might be able to survive bodily death. |
0:51.0 | But if you use your thinking self to consider it for about five seconds, you'll see that |
0:56.0 | this cannot have been the radical new claim made by Descartes, for the simple reason that people |
1:00.7 | had been saying it for about 2,000 years before he came along. Obviously, Plato, and all those |
1:06.4 | who thought of themselves as Platonists, were dualists in this sense, but even Aristotle argues that the mind |
1:12.7 | needs no bodily organ. This had inspired Aristotelians from late antiquity to the Renaissance to argue that |
1:19.3 | he too made the rational part of the soul independent from the body. The standard scholastic view, |
1:25.4 | which Descartes would have learned well as a student, was that |
1:28.3 | the soul is the substantial form of the body, responsible for all the body's vital powers, |
1:33.5 | from digestion and sensation to imagination and memory, but also giving humans a capacity for |
1:39.0 | abstract thought, which is carried out immaterially. |
1:42.7 | Insofar as the scholastics perceived any serious threat to this |
1:45.9 | orthodoxy, it came from a non-dualist direction. Some schoolmen down in Padua had been flirting with |
1:52.0 | the idea that the soul is so closely tied to the body that it cannot survive on its own. So Descartes' innovation |
1:59.1 | cannot have been that he postulated a separate rational soul. |
2:02.6 | Rather, his decisive intervention was on the side of the body, or matter. |
2:07.6 | His bold new physics would explain a wide range of phenomena mechanistically. |
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