Hoosier hoopla
The Playbook Podcast
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🗓️ 13 March 2026
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Today on the Playbook podcast, Donald Trump's retribution campaign comes to Indiana. |
| 0:11.5 | Vice President J.D. Vance is headed to North Carolina. And the DHS shutdown stretches on to a month with no end in sight. |
| 0:20.4 | Hello, I'm Adam Wren. And I'm Megan Messerly. It's Friday, |
| 0:24.1 | March 13th. Adam, retribution, this is the topic that has been on my mind all week. President |
| 0:32.6 | Trump was in Kentucky this week in Representative Thomas Massey's district, obviously Long a Thorne |
| 0:40.0 | and the president's side, and the president is now supporting Massey's Republican primary |
| 0:45.5 | opponent, former Navy SEAL at Gowleran. This rally was just, I just keep thinking about it |
| 0:51.8 | in my mind out of because to me it was like just a ready |
| 0:55.0 | made campaign ad. If folks have not already cut these into ads, I'm sure they will quickly be |
| 0:59.9 | cut into ads. I mean, Trump was just laying into Thomas Massey and heaping praise on Galrain. |
| 1:07.6 | And of course, this is just the latest example of what the president does to folks |
| 1:12.7 | who stand up to him and dare to go against his agenda. And you have some fresh reporting out |
| 1:18.3 | of Indiana of yet another example of this. Tell me more about what you're learning. |
| 1:23.3 | Yeah, Megan, I was surprised President Donald Trump didn't veer up into the Hoosier stages from down south in Kentucky. |
| 1:30.3 | He was across the border in Ohio as well. |
| 1:32.7 | But Trump allies, I'm told, and we report this morning in the newsletter, are prepared to spend more than $5 million on Indiana's May primaries in at least six or seven state Senate districts where Republican senators |
| 1:47.0 | voted against his redistricting plan just a few months ago in December. And this is very much a retribution |
| 1:53.1 | campaign. The bulk of this, we're told, is going to be spent by the Hoosier Leadership for |
| 1:58.8 | America, political nonprofit, which is led by Senator Jim Banks |
| 2:03.6 | of Indiana. But more importantly, Megan, this group is led by Andrew Serabian, a political |
| 2:09.6 | advisor to Vice President J.D. Vance, who of course traveled to the Hoosier State not once |
| 2:15.2 | but twice last fall to persuade holdout lawmakers that |
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