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Hello, Robbie New Weekly, Tuesday, Sydney, final week of the Lions tour,

and we're in one of the great spots in this brilliant city,

in the contemporary art museum on the terrace,

looking straight at the Harbour Bridge and the Opera House,

glistening in the afternoon

sunshine the ferries going in and out of wonderful spots like manly and watson's bay loads to come on

the pod today we're going to get the latest from the lion's camp on their celebrations after clinching

the series we're going to be joined by a wallaby great in michael hooper but first we are going to

speak to the man at the helm of world rugbyby. A very busy time as ever for the sport. Some controversy from the weekend to reflect on as well. Alan Gilpin, CEO World Rugby is with us. Alan in this terrific spot. And first of all, before we talk about what's coming up for World Rugby and the World Cups that are here in Australia in a few years' time, your reflection for sort of a world rugby overview point of on the Lions Tour that we're in the middle of or coming to the end of. I think it's been brilliant. I mean, we've had some brilliant games, not just the two test matches so far, but, you know, across the country. We know that gets fans excited. We know this is the biggest thing in men's rugby probably outside outside of a rugby World Cup in terms of, you know, fan attention. And that's really important because this is the start of, you know, an amazing period for rugby in Australia with a men's World Cup, then a women's World Cup with Brisbane 32 and Rugby 7. So, yeah, good platform for us. Yeah, it appears a bit that the tours drifted slightly and then sort of exploded into life at the MCG. Did you get that impression that it sort of has taken a bit of a while to get going? Yeah, and I think tours do, you know, and Lions Tours are, you know, you've been on the road, they're quite a long period. So, and everyone's always focused on the, you know, the combinations, the selections, the build up to the first test,

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