Jay, if you were to sum up the most important thing you've learned about God by studying crime and murder cases,

what do you think that would be?

It's that the gospel is the cure for every kind of stupid.

So if everyone is seeing something right now in culture, they think it's stupid. If it's marriage stupid, if it's political stupid,

if it's international war stupid,

whatever the stupid thing you think,

why are we behaving this way?

Well, we're behaving that way because we have a sin problem.

And the only cure for sin is the gospel.

Jay Warner Wallace is a cold case homicide detective.

He's a popular national speaker and best-selling author.

Relying on more than two decades of investigative experience, Wallace provides the tools needed to investigate

the claims of Christianity and make a convincing case for the truth of the Christian worldview.

Jay, so good to be with you again. So glad to be here. Thanks for having you. Yeah. But, you know,

I love apologetics and discussing the arguments that support the case for Christianity.

But everyone is fascinated with true crime.

And I'm thinking of one of my daughters who loves to watch these crime shows.

And these shows which would give me nightmares because they're about people who have

psychological twistings that make them the kind of people

you're afraid to bump into in a back alley somewhere. My wife won't even watch them. I've been,

I think, Dateline more than anybody else in the country working cold cases, but she won't watch

them either because she doesn't want to go to bed with that idea in her head. Yeah, yeah,

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