There's a better way to do this.

Let me show you a better way.

And we are live.

I was just a little bit worried there.

We didn't get started.

I've got some construction going on.

I'm a long promised remodel of my office straight across the hall.

And those guys have been pretty good about staying away from the modem.

But hopefully we won't have any disruptions due to that today.

And they're making some noise over there too, which is just unavoidable right now.

I'm going to up against vacation time and all.

So this needs to get done.

But you may see me mute my end when we bring Travis on at times to deal with that.

But I think we'll be fine today.

It's going to be a cool-ass interview.

We're going to be talking to Travis Corcoran in just a minute, who's the author, among other

books of Red State Mars.

This is a really cool book.

They sent me a copy of it when we booked him.

This is very interesting. And I know what

you're thinking. Jack, you just said yesterday that no living person is going to be living on a

calling. Well, not really no living person, but like terraformed, colony, like that's all not

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