Home schooling can be challenging when you're in good health, but it can be even more challenging

when you're dealing with chronic illness and pain. Let's talk about that subject today.

Welcome to the Simply Charlotte Mason podcast. I'm Sonia Schaefer.

Chronic illness and pain is not foreign to a Charlotte Mason approach.

Charlotte herself had chronic heart issues her whole life.

And during her later years, when she was teaching her students at her teacher training college, she would often

have to teach them from a wheelchair or from her couch. So it's nothing new. And that's one reason

that's dear to my heart. But another reason is because of our guest today. Joining me today is

my daughter, Ruth. Ruth, thanks for joining us. Of course. And I brought my own guest along today too.

Yes, it is. Bring your daughter to podcast days.

Well, I appreciate you being willing to share.

This is a personal subject, I know, and everybody's experience is different.

I kind of got a taste of that when I was going through cancer, and everybody wants to give you advice,

but their particular brand of what they're going through might be different from yours.

Probably is different from yours.

But I appreciate your being willing to share from your experience.

Of course. Let's talk a little bit about your history with chronic illness so people know where you're coming from.

Sure.

Yeah. My intention today is not to get into all the details, because as you said, it varies so much from person to person.

I can say chronic illness has been, has defined the majority of my life,

starting with issues when I was a child and ongoing.

And there have been some ups and downs throughout that time,

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