Summary
One man's life is split between homeless shelters, rental apartments, and a home – his home – in the woods.
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| 0:00.0 | Podcast |
| 0:03.0 | Listen to the organist, the culturally omnivorous, |
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| 0:08.0 | from the editors of the believer magazine. |
| 0:10.0 | Part of poetry is learning how to speak. |
| 0:13.5 | Chilly Billy, Chilly Billy. |
| 0:15.8 | I'm also a horse. |
| 0:17.4 | I really value my life, even though I know it's debatable whether I'm even really alive. |
| 0:22.5 | The right reading for this is the one I'm giving. |
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| 0:28.0 | or wherever you download podcasts. |
| 0:31.2 | From the Independent Producer Project in KCRW.com, I'm Bob Carlson, and this is Unfictional. |
| 0:39.0 | Unfictional is a program of True Stories and Personal Documentaries, and this week we're going to spend the entire show with a guy named Kevin De Mars. |
| 0:51.0 | Kevin is a 50 year old man who lives in Rutland, Vermont, and he's like many people who at some point in life have found themselves without a place to live. |
| 1:00.0 | Homeless, even though plenty of people without a fixed address, wouldn't use that word to describe themselves at all. |
| 1:07.0 | Some people live in cars or tents or slip in and out of homelessness. |
| 1:11.0 | Kevin thinks he's been homeless about 10 different times and |
| 1:14.9 | has spent months at a time living in a tent in the woods. And he's a person whose |
| 1:20.0 | homelessness has been driven at least in part by the fact that he can't always |
| 1:24.4 | live comfortably in the world of people. Kevin spoke to producer Erica Hileman, who makes the |
| 1:30.8 | excellent podcast called Rumbleumble Strip Vermont. |
| 1:33.0 | The format of this episode is a bit different from the stories that we usually |
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