surviving the long disaster is not about preparing for everything as much as it is about

preparing to work with others to survive together. And in that preparation, if you're doing it

right, there is an incredible joy. There is an incredible collective peak state that you have

to go through, you have to meet lots of different people

and try lots of different things and fail and keep failing and keep going through that

heartbreak of friendships gain and friendships loss to find the people once you've found them,

you experience that joy every time you get together.

Collective Insights is a voyage through topics and technologies revolutionizing human well-being.

We explore the fields of neuroscience, integrative medicine, anthropology, optimal psychology, systems thinking, and existential risk.

Groundbreaking approaches for a better world and a better life await you. Welcome to collective

insights. Let's do the Hello's How Are You? So I want to welcome you, Nick Carr,

you know, one of the leads for the transnational organization, Burners

Without Borders, you know, somebody who has rolled up their sleeves and walked their talk and has

also been, he also is the author of an essay called The Long Disaster. And that is what I would

mean, and all related topics is what I would, I mean,

and all related topics is what we're here to discuss today.

And for anybody that has been following this podcast,

Homegrown Humans, or our work at the Flood Genome Project

or anything I've written over time,

you may well remember from stealing fire,

introducing Burning Man as a quote unquote sandbox for the future, as a place where people were coming and experimenting and developing.

And one of the main points I wanted to make out of that entire community and everything

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