in the mythic context, you know, it was believed that spiritually conscious, spiritually

awakened, powerful enlightened human beings were inherently perfect because they had such

power to transmit so much grace and so much consciousness.

And so we discovered in the West, you know, when the Eastern Promise of Enlightenment

hit post-modernity, we've had example after example,

including in my case that people can be profoundly awakened,

profoundly enlightened and have the power to transmit that profound state of consciousness

to other people and still be imperfect human beings.

It's part of any more understanding.

So what I still advocate for is the fact that the guru principle

is a function of nature itself.

And some people have this gift, and it's a sacred gift.

It's a profound gift.

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Welcome to a new episode of Homegrown Humans where I get to chat with Andrew Cohen, a one-time spiritual teacher with a global reach, the founding editor of the pioneering magazine,

What is Enlightenment, and a, I would say, a bad boy of the spiritual circuit who had a fall from grace in the last decade,

who is now returning tentatively to public life, who last year had

an in-depth conversation with our buddy Sam Harris and has reached out after the writing

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