Hello friends, welcome.

So happy that you're with me today.

My guest is Carla Power, who has written a book called Home Land Security.

And she takes an absolutely fascinating journey into what it takes to de-radicalize somebody.

And she goes overseas studying the most radical of the radical terrorist groups.

But there's a lot to learn about the techniques that can help bring somebody back from the brink.

So let's dive in.

I'm Sharon McMahon.

And here's where it gets interesting.

I am so excited to be chatting today with Carla Power, who has written a book that I found

absolutely fascinating. And so much of your research, I think people are going to be very,

very interested to hear from you on. So thank you for doing this. Thanks for being here Carla.

Oh, it's great to be here.

So your book Home Land Security is about a topic that I think people the world over are curious about

and are also concerned about, which is this sort of topic about radicalization.

And first of all, how did you become interested in this topic? I would love to know more about like,

where did your desire to study and learn about radicalization and de-radicalization even come from?

So I've written as a journalist and an author about Islamic societies for a long time. And my

first book was about reading the Quran with a very conservative scholar. And the idea behind it was,

I really wanted to understand somebody's worldview who was probably going to be very different from

my own. And I was on the book tour for that book. And all this time, I'd written about Islam and

Islamic societies for about 20 years as a journalist. And this was in after 9-11. And I really felt it

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