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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Home and Huawei: Will Boris pass his first post-Brexit test?

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

As Britain finally leaves the EU, the vastness of the Brexit task ahead becomes clearer. Special guest PETER FOSTER, Europe Editor of the Telegraph (and soon Policy Editor at the FT), joins us to talk about our future relationship with the EU and who will hold the Government to account at home. Meanwhile, was Boris Johnson’s first big independent decision – on allowing Huawei into the UK’s 5G plans – a wise one? Old China hand Peter thinks not. Plus we talk to leading light of Leave GISELA STUART on the inside story of the campaign, her thoughts on Remain, and what Dominic Cummings is really like. Watch your feed for the full-length unedited version too. “The Chinese have driven a wedge between the United Kingdom and the United States. From their point of view, job done.” – PETER FOSTER “Membership of the EU has depoliticised a lot of trade issues in the past… It’s going to be striking on how politics intrude on these big decisions. And ministers are going to be exposed.” – ALEX THOMAS “Remaking our relationship with the EU is very much not going to be on the same exasperated but friendly terms of the past.” PETER FOSTER Hosted by Bronwen Maddox with Maddy Thimont-Jack and Alex Thomas. Audio production by Alex Rees.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this week's historic episode of Inside Briefing.

0:14.0

We're putting out this podcast on the UK's last day in the European Union.

0:18.5

By the time you listen, the UK may have left.

0:23.7

1,316 days since the referendum, Brexit is, in one sense, going to be done. We'll talk about what that really means,

0:29.1

though, and what happens next. And to capture the spirit of the day, we caught up with Giesler-Stewart,

0:34.1

one of the leaders of the vote leave campaign, to look back on the referendum and the last three and a half years.

0:40.3

We'll be talking to her later in the podcast.

0:43.0

And it's also the week when Boris Johnson snubbed the US by choosing to use the Chinese tech giant Huawei for the UK's 5G network.

0:50.5

We'll talk about what that means for Britain's alliances in the brave new world after Brexit.

0:54.9

Today I'm joined by a panel whose lives have, perhaps to their surprise, been taken over by Brexit since that day of the vote that seemed so long ago now, June 23rd, 2016.

1:05.9

Maddie Timot-Jack is a researcher on the IFG's Brexit team and has written some of our essential Brexit reports

1:11.0

that had a lot of effect on how Parliament approached the battle with government.

1:15.0

Maddie, there's been a real change of mood in Westminster, hasn't there, since the election,

1:18.6

when people really realise that Brexit's going to be done.

1:20.9

How does it seem to you?

1:22.2

Yeah, well, I think when we saw that exit poll, we knew that the UK was definitely going to be leaving the EU on the 31st of January.

1:28.7

And I think from my perspective, as someone who's been following Parliament so much in the last few years,

1:33.8

it was very odd to see the withdrawal agreement bill get royal assent without much fanfare at all,

1:38.9

because by that stage it was just a formality.

1:41.6

And has it all gone quiet in Parliament?

1:43.0

I had one peer saying to me yesterday, gosh, it really feels pretty subdued now.

1:48.4

Yeah, I think, I mean, Parliament's role obviously has changed.

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