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Welcome to Holy Smoke, the Spectator's Religion podcast.

I'm Damien Thompson.

The persecution of Christians in Nigeria has reached new and horrifying levels. And while the murders and abductions continue, there is a row brewing about the refusal of various Western authorities to acknowledge that Christians are being targeted by Islamist terrorists in the deeply divided country.

I'm joined today by Father Benedict Kili, who is is a priest of the ordinaryate and the founder of

Nazarian.org, which works for persecuted Christians and other minorities around the world,

and by the spectators' deputy editor, Freddie Gray.

Father Ben and Freddie, Nigeria is very much in the news, at the moment, not least because

President Trump has woken up to the fact that there is widespread, horrifying slaughter of Christians

in Nigeria and has threatened to send the US military to the country. Guns are blazing,

as he put it, unless its government, which is denying the U.S. military to the country. Guns are blazing, as he put it, unless its government, which is denying the extent of

the slaughter of Christians, intervened.

Nigeria is a disgrace.

The whole thing is a disgrace.

They're killing people by the thousands.

It's a genocide, and I'm really angry about it.

And we pay, you know, we give a lot of subsidy to Nigeria.

We're going to end up stopping. The government's done nothing. They're very ineffective.

They're killing Christians at will. And, you know, until I got involved in it, too, which nobody even talked about it.

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