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🗓️ 7 August 2020
⏱️ 24 minutes
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0:12.2 | Welcome to Holy Smoke, the Spectator's Religion podcast. I'm Damien Thompson. |
0:24.8 | Next month, the Vatican and Beijing will start negotiations about the renewal of the 2018 deal, |
0:33.0 | which gave the Chinese Communist Party the power to nominate Catholic bishops who would be approved by the Pope. |
0:40.6 | The details of that deal have never been revealed to the world. But what we do know is that |
0:45.5 | Chinese Catholics are still being persecuted. Their churches are still being demolished. Their clergy |
0:51.2 | are still being arrested and tortured. And there is overwhelming evidence that some of the bishops whom Pope Francis now recognises are no more than Chinese Communist Party officials in mitas. |
1:04.0 | It's easy to see what China has got out of the 2018 deal. There is no longer a dissident underground Catholic Church loyal to Rome, |
1:13.6 | which might pose a threat to the authorities. Instead, it has been merged with Pope Francis's |
1:19.6 | approval with the Patriotic Association, China's name for its puppet Catholic Church, set up by Chairman Mao in order to propagate |
1:28.5 | Communist Party ideology disguised as Catholic worship. |
1:32.7 | That hasn't changed. In fact, under President Xi's process of signification, |
1:37.3 | China's state-controlled Catholic churches have introduced ever more elements of Communist Party |
1:43.1 | theology, if you like, and iconography. |
1:46.3 | Statues of Mao are appearing in churches all over China, replacing those of Jesus and the Virgin Mary. |
1:52.3 | The big difference is that members of the underground church are now expected to go along with this, |
1:57.4 | and on the orders of the Pope. |
1:59.7 | That's not to say that Francis has officially endorsed this |
2:03.0 | signification of Catholicism, but he's enabled it to happen. For example, shortly after his deal was |
2:08.9 | signed, he ordered the loyal Monsignor Vincent Guo Zijun, the Catholic bishop of Mindong in Fujian province |
2:15.7 | to step down in favour of Monsignor Zand Silu, |
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