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Holy Smoke: is the Church any help during this time of crisis?

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πŸ—“οΈ 18 March 2020

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Do you sense that something is missing in the churches' response to the coronavirus? In this week's Holy Smoke episode, Dr Gavin Ashenden, a former chaplain to the Queen, argues that the bishop's attitude of 'wash your hands and be nice' reflects the churches' polite surrender to secularisation – but suggests that ordinary believers now have the opportunity to show the public what Christianity really looks like. The coronavirus, dreadful though it is, could mark a turning point – one that leads to a religious revival in which the old breed of bishop-bureaucrat gives way to more inspiring leadership.

Holy Smoke is a series of podcasts where Damian Thompson dissects the most important and controversial topics in world religion, with a range of high profile guests. Click here to find previous episodes.

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0:00.0

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0:15.6

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0:24.1

Welcome. spectator.co.uk forward slash free. Welcome to Holy Smoke, the Spectator's Religion podcast. I'm Damian Thompson.

0:35.7

Are the churches rising to the challenge of the coronavirus?

0:40.3

And if not, why not?

0:44.3

I'm joined once again by Dr Gavin Ashton, a former chaplain to the Queen

0:51.3

and one of Britain's most insightful Christian commentators.

0:56.0

One of the extraordinary things about this pandemic is that it's the first time in the West

1:02.0

that people have been confronted with such a terrifying situation and not turn to Christianity as a resource in significant numbers.

1:10.0

And another thing that perhaps needs

1:12.6

saying is that it's not clear that the leadership of the churches is truly rising to this

1:19.2

challenge. Many Christians and other religious believers are doing wonderful things to help their

1:24.9

neighbours. But if you look at the official pronouncements of

1:28.7

the bishops, too often you're confronted by what reads like the standard health and safety advice

1:35.0

with just a little light dusting of spirituality. For example, the Archbishop of Canterby,

1:40.7

Justin Welby, put out a statement which did contain some inspiring reflections,

1:46.0

but began with the advice about washing your hands that we hear a hundred times a day, and doesn't

1:51.5

particularly gain in authority from being repeated by the leader of the Church of England.

1:56.9

Now, bishops have taken the difficult decision to end public worship, and I don't criticise

2:03.3

them for that.

2:04.1

It's an inevitable precaution, and it must be said that many clergy are vigorously promoting

2:10.0

online worship in this time of trial.

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