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🗓️ 23 June 2023
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0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. Absolutely free. Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash voucher. |
0:28.1 | Welcome to Holy Smoke, the Spectator's Religion podcast. I'm Damien Thompson. And I guess you could call this a new series of Holy Smoke, |
0:40.9 | which is my sort of get-out clause when I haven't done an episode for a bit. |
0:45.0 | But I've had COVID for the first time ever. |
0:46.1 | It's horrible. |
0:53.6 | And I've just relapsed, I think, as a result of the stress of trying to understand the subject of this week's podcast, which is the world's nastiest liturgical |
0:57.3 | dispute, the most vicious liturgy wars in living memory, and they involve not Arthur |
1:04.7 | Roach's thuggish attempt to suppress the Latin Mass, but the Sero-Malabar Church, that's a community of some 4 million Indian Christians |
1:13.9 | in full communion with the Holy See, whose right is extremely ancient, it is Syriac, it is |
1:21.9 | connected historically to Nestorianism, and I suppose you could say that in some ways it's as |
1:27.3 | far removed from the mainstream |
1:29.2 | Roman right mass as you can imagine. I mean, mass is called the Holy Corbana. The Eucharic prayer is known as |
1:36.7 | the anaphora. The services themselves have been influenced down the centuries by Hinduism. |
1:44.1 | So it's exotic, unfamiliar and rather beautiful way of worshipping and thriving, I think. |
1:49.0 | But there is almost literally blood on the streets in India. |
1:54.0 | And the Kazas Belai, originally anyway, was the Vatican's attempt to regularise the worship of the Cyril Malabar Church. |
2:04.9 | My guest today is the senior correspondent of the pillar, Luke Coppin, |
2:09.8 | the genius and only begetta of the much-missed weekly Catholic herald, |
2:14.7 | and a friend of mine for many, many years, |
2:17.1 | who has been covering in great detail for the pillar |
2:19.2 | this bloody but little publicised outside India liturgical warfare. |
2:25.2 | And so I really need two things, Luke. |
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