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🗓️ 30 July 2019
⏱️ 34 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Holy Smoke, the Spectator's Religion podcast. I'm Damien Thompson. |
0:14.0 | How do we explain the flirtation, amounting sometimes to a love affair, radical Islam and the Western Progressive Left, |
0:24.1 | as represented by, for example, Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party. |
0:29.9 | Professor Richard Landers, an American medieval historian, now based in Jerusalem, |
0:35.2 | has a fascinating theory about this. |
0:38.1 | He was co-founder and director of the influential Center for Millennial Studies at Boston University, |
0:45.0 | which did groundbreaking research into religious and political apocalyptic prophecies |
0:50.6 | in the period immediately before and after the year 2000. Western liberals, he argues, |
0:58.0 | have allowed their vision of universal peace and justice to be tainted by the apocalyptic fantasies |
1:06.0 | which are predicated on the notion of a global Jewish conspiracy. |
1:11.9 | He joins me today. |
1:14.0 | Richard Landis, your academic specialty, is millennialism, |
1:18.5 | which is the study of the belief in, as you put it, in your most recent book, |
1:24.5 | Heaven on Earth. |
1:26.2 | The belief that we're moving towards a just, equal, perfect |
1:31.7 | society is held in common by all sorts of different political and religious movements, |
1:37.3 | and it can take peaceful, progressive forms, or it can take violent forms. Now, in recent years, we've seen something that baffles a lot of |
1:48.0 | people, which is what's known as the Red Green Alliance, which is an alliance between the global |
1:54.8 | progressive left who have always preached, or at least in recent years, have preached equality and peace, |
2:02.2 | with a special emphasis on peace, peace studies, peace marches, and global jihadism, |
2:08.5 | which preaches anything but peace. A peace will only come after the infidels have been defeated. |
2:14.3 | So explaining why a peaceful version of transformation and a violent vision of |
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