Previously on the in a grim journey joining us on the ticket hotline is the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys to discuss his team

We say good morning to Jason Garrett high coach. Hey good morning guys

How are we doing? We're doing well doing well

Well your team didn't do so well on Sunday. I know that's that's concerning isn't it?

Well, we lost the game, but you have to understand that this is a process

It's a process that we go through when the process of going six and ten this year

Okay, so you gotta be patient processes take time

And I know sometimes people are like I don't want to be made to go to counseling

But being made to go to counseling was what made me aware of all of the hurt and all of the trauma that I had faced

And then being around so in the group home. I lived with nine other young women and

And it was like seeing them made me realize that hurt people hurt people we hear that

All the time, but healed people heal people and this was an opportunity

For me to start my healing process so that I could be an active proactive healer

I would guess you haven't been exposed to Bohemian society major

Well, I play cards tocation or a stranger to cocaine and exotic dancing to I have a minute

I find the more obvious by says the easiest to resist. It's the sneaky little obscure ones that bring you to your knees

So what business is so urgent it trumps lump

The business of the anti-gram journey podcast

My name is Joel and today's guest is any gram two dr. Holly ox handler

Holly hopped on 35 and drove over to the Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne to talk all about that to life

People often ask me why don't we have more twos on the podcast

I'm always like hey, we have a two on every single podcast her name Suzanne

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