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Well, this is the time of year that I wish Ray Isle lived across the street. Ray's executive wine editor of Food and Wine magazine, Ray, good to have you back with us. That's great to be back then. Thanks. Well, it's the time of year when we're thinking wine buys, and I understand you've been doing some investigating unreal deals in wine. Yeah, I have. I figured it is the time of year when you're looking for bargains, because you don't want to spend a titanic amount of money on you know multiple parties and so what i did was i went to a friend who works at zackies which is a very well-known and very large store here in new york and got some sort of retail idea tips so one of the things you know is that popular wines the kind of the big selling wines like chardonnay mid-price chardonnay from cal from California, rarely go on sale because the retailers know they're going to be able to sell those wines. So what instead, if you look for wines from Alsace, for instance, or from, you know, Abruzzo in Italy or from Alta Adige, for the sort of less well-known places, those are wines that they're more likely to put on sale during the holiday season because they want to move, you know, everybody who has a store wants to sell wine. And those are the categories that are a little harder to sell. And, you know, weirdly enough, the retailer was talking to said, you know, if a wine isn't on sale and it's, and it's not something, you know, it's not a really well-known popular wine. If it's something slightly esoteric, you can ask and see if they'll possibly give you a deal on it,

especially if you're going to buy a case or something.

But oddly enough, there's some flexibility involved in the whole thing, which was news to me.

You're saying you can bargain with a wine merchant?

There's always, you know, there's always a little bit of flexibility in pricing. And, you know, hey, You're saying you can bargain with a wine merchant?

There's always, you know, there's always a little bit of flexibility in pricing.

And you may, you may get shut down, but you also may, you know, you may, the guy may say, sure, great.

You know, most stores also, you know, it's pretty common that if you buy a case of wine, 12 bottles, stores will often offer a 10 to 15% discount on that.

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