Holiday Message 2025 | The Romance of the University
Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
Sean Carroll
4.7 • 4.7K Ratings
🗓️ 22 December 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Time for the holiday message! Rounding off the year with a brief and casual reflection on some issue that doesn't quite rise to the level of a full solo podcast. And hopefully something uplifting.
This year, I offer a short apologia for higher education in the liberal arts and sciences, focusing not on the down-to-earth economic/occupational benefits of a college degree, but on the very real ways in which such an education opens up possibilities for personal growth. I think all of us in academia should be loud and unapologetic about the more romantic, idealistic values of the modern university.
Happy holidays all!
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the 2025 holiday message for the Mindscape podcast. |
| 0:09.9 | I'm your host, Sean Carroll. |
| 0:11.7 | Whenever it's a holiday break, I sometimes think about my first year in college. |
| 0:16.8 | In fact, going back for holiday vacation and meeting up with all my old friends from high school. |
| 0:21.6 | You know, I had a group of friends, mutual friends that we had had for years. |
| 0:26.2 | We basically all went to different universities, very different universities, |
| 0:30.4 | so didn't keep close touch with each other at the time. |
| 0:32.9 | But then, of course, got back together. |
| 0:35.4 | And then again, during the summer, after that next semester was |
| 0:39.2 | over, I could not help but be struck by how different my friends were. Not in bad ways, |
| 0:47.6 | or not always in good ways. They were just different. They were a little bit different people |
| 0:53.1 | when they came back from a short exposure to university life. |
| 0:57.6 | And they had been, for the years, when I knew them. |
| 1:00.4 | You know, of course, they changed. |
| 1:01.7 | We all changed during high school, during the four or five years, whatever. |
| 1:06.7 | We were hanging out together, but relatively gradually. |
| 1:10.2 | And then they went off to the four corners of the earth. |
| 1:13.4 | They came back and they were noticeably different. |
| 1:16.6 | The thing that obviously occurred to me at the time was, wow, going to college really changes you in some ways. |
| 1:22.9 | And I'm sure that it changed me and they noticed that just as well. |
| 1:26.5 | But what I eventually realized is that they all changed differently, right? |
| 1:31.8 | It wasn't as if there was something that happens to you when you go to college and it all |
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