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The Brian Lehrer Show

Holiday Best-Of: Colleges; Public Health; Pre-Cellphone Nostalgia; Being Stuck

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2025

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

Some favorites for this holiday season: Princeton President on Campus Speech & Politics; Seth Berkley on Vaccines; Pre-Cellphone Nostalgia; Stuck in the Economy; The Future of Academia

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

0:13.0

Good morning, everyone.

0:14.0

My team and I are taking a holiday season break today, and we're re-airing some segments from 2025 that we think you'll enjoy or enjoy again,

0:23.4

lightly edited for clarity and time. So we can't take your calls today, but today we'll hear

0:28.9

infectious disease epidemiologist Seth Berkeley, who puts the anti-vax movement in historic

0:34.6

context. Gen Z callers, nostalgic for pre-cell phone times, why Americans

0:40.8

don't move so much anymore, Ilya merits on Trump v. Academia and not just the Ivy's.

0:48.6

And speaking of, we start with the president of Princeton University, Christopher Icegruber.

0:53.9

He has a new book called

0:55.3

Terms of Respect, How Colleges Get Free Speech Right. We'll see if he can convince you that they

1:01.8

actually do as we pick it up here. It's an interesting title at a time when critics on both the

1:07.7

left and the right and free speech purists without a political side,

1:12.2

all say colleges are getting it wrong. Christopher Icegruber has been the Princeton president since

1:17.5

2013. He has the unusual, perhaps, academic track of having been a physics major at Princeton

1:23.6

in the 80s, but going on to become a constitutional lawyer, including as a clerk

1:28.9

for Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stevens. He has written provocative books before, including

1:34.5

one about undemocratic features of the U.S. Constitution, one that proposed reforming the Supreme

1:40.3

Court justice selection process, and one about the Constitution and religious liberty

1:45.0

that argue that religion gets treated as both too privileged and too punished by modern applications of the wall of separation between religion and government as people see it.

1:55.5

Maybe we'll touch on some of the themes of those older books as they relate to the new one about speech on campus.

2:00.5

In a nutshell,

2:01.7

Ice Gruber argues that there can be a balance between free speech and respectful inclusivity.

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