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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Holding Pattern(s) – with Jonathan Schanzer

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/4wzexubr *** Israelis are stuck in a tense holding pattern, each day waiting for a response from Iran, or Hezbollah, or both - an attack that was expected to occur last week, then later forecasted to occur over Tisha B’Av. And yet, each day… nothing. What is going on — in Tehran? In Jerusalem? And in Washington D.C.? At the same time, there is a similar pattern in the hostage negotiations. Today, senior officials from Israel, the U.S., Qatar and Egypt met in Doha to resume negotiations for a Gaza hostage and ceasefire deal - talks, as we are learning, that will continue into tomorrow. Israel seems to be on the brink of major developments - and yet, Israelis are left questioning: when will they occur? And against that backdrop: is Israel on offense, or is Israel on defense? To help us assess all of this from a broader strategic perspective, our guest is Dr. Jonathan Schanzer, who is senior vice president for research at Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Jon previously worked as a terrorism finance analyst at the U.S. Department of the Treasury, where he played an integral role in the designation of numerous terrorist financiers. Jon's latest book is "Gaza Conflict 2021: Hamas, Israel and Eleven Days of War". His other books include: "State of Failure: Yasser Arafat, Mahmoud Abbas, and the Unmaking of the Palestinian State", and "Hamas vs. Fatah: The Struggle for Palestine". Jonathan has studied Middle East history in four countries. He earned his PhD from King’s College London, where he wrote his dissertation on the U.S. Congress and its efforts to combat terrorism in the 20th century. He speaks Arabic and Hebrew. To watch the FDD Morning Brief, hosted by Jon: https://www.fdd.org/fddmorningbrief/ Register for Call me Back Live at the Streicker Center in New York: https://streicker.nyc/events/tibon-senor

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The Israelis are getting attacked right now on seven fronts,

0:03.9

kinetically.

0:04.6

And I don't think that's discussed enough in our media,

0:07.6

which we can talk about how flawed it is.

0:10.1

But, you know, it's Gaza, it's West Bank, it's Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Iran itself.

0:17.6

And that, by the way, doesn't even get into the cyber realm, the campus stuff, the law fair, right?

0:22.2

I mean, you could probably point to 10 or 12 different

0:25.4

fronts that Israel's fighting on but kinetically they've spent a huge amount of time and

0:30.3

effort and they have exhausted their troops to some extent or another fighting in Gaza and now

0:36.4

they have other fronts to deal with. It is 1.5.5.

0:45.0

It is 4.15 p.m. on Thursday, August 15th, New York City.

0:51.0

It is 11.15 p.5 PM on Thursday in Israel as Israelis wind down their day

0:57.7

following a week that included Tishabav and another Shabat coming up in which Israelis wait.

1:05.0

And the waiting is what we will talk about today.

1:08.0

Israelis seem to be stuck in a tense holding pattern,

1:12.0

each day waiting for a response from Iran or Hezbollah or both, an

1:17.3

attack that was predicted to take place last week and then forecast to occur over Tishaba

1:22.3

of and yet each day nothing.

1:25.3

What is going on behind the scenes in Tehran, in Jerusalem, and in Washington, D.C.

1:31.1

And also at the same time there is a similar sentiment surrounding the hostage negotiations.

1:35.8

Today senior officials from Israel, the United States, Qatar and Egypt, met in Doha to resume what was

1:41.2

billed as a crucial round of negotiations for a Gaza hostage

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