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But we can't move on with his story without saying that there is the modern connection

to Habakkuk with with in World War II,

which I don't think either of our podcasts would be talking about World War II very much.

But so we might as well, maybe we could put this in the title to get more clicks and listens by mentioning World War II.

But during World War II, there was a, what was the guy's name was Pike?

Yeah, Pipe.

I think Jeffrey Pike.

He was a, I am mad inventor might be being a little bit too kind to it.

But he, this Jeffrey Pike fellow, came up with the idea of taking an iceberg made out of a

innovative material that he invented called Pike Creek, which was frozen, well, ice, frozen with sawdust in it to a certain percentage.

And then he said, let's make an aircraft carrier out of this.

That was basically this aircraft carrier, from what I understand, would have been the entire size of the entire U.S. Navy

fleet at that time.

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