Hitler and Mussolini

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🗓️ 17 January 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Just over 100 years ago, in October 1922, Mussolini and 30,000 Blackshirts marched on Rome. It was a mass demonstration that would see his National Fascist Party take power in the Kingdom of Italy. However, the advent of Italian fascism has always been overshadowed by that of its infamous German counterpart, the Nazi Party. But what actually happened during Mussolini’s time in power? And why do we remember Mussolini’s dictatorship on more forgiving terms than that of Hitler? Dan is joined by Christian Goeschel, historian of modern European history and author of Mussolini and Hitler: The Forging of the Fascist Alliance, to lay bare the realities of Mussolini’s Italy.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, welcome to Dance Those History.
0:02.4	At 100 Years ago folks, big anniversary, the centenary of Benito Mussolini becoming Prime
0:07.7	Minister of Italy.
0:09.5	In late October 1922, following the march of 30,000 fascist black shirts on Rome, the
0:17.8	Liberal Prime Minister resigned, and a fascist government was put into place by King Victor
0:23.6	Emmanuel III.
0:26.8	Mussolini, former radical socialist, opponent of the First World War, turned First World
0:32.5	Veteran, terribly injured in the trenches, and radicalized, perhaps traumatized, into
0:39.0	a far right extremist.
0:42.6	Within a year, Mussolini had sent troops to bombard and occupy the Greek land of
0:48.2	Calfou and would press Italian colonization of Libya with lethal, perhaps genocidal determination.
0:58.4	It's strange, given the prominence in our syllabus, in our popular imagination of German
1:03.4	fascism in the 1930s and onwards, that we've sort of forgotten to mark the rise of fascism
1:08.7	Italy.
1:09.7	I think it's important to do that.
1:10.7	I've got the right guy on the pod to talk about the rise of fascism Italy.
1:15.0	He is the very brilliant, Dr Christian Gertel, he's a reader in modern European history
1:19.7	at the University of Manchester.
1:21.8	No one knows more about the rise of fascism in the 1920s and 30s than him.
1:26.2	It's an important time to have this conversation, folks.
1:29.0	Sadly, I don't tell you why.
1:31.3	You'll hear enough about the renewal of the far right at the moment.
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