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Good morning and welcome back to the Independent Republic of Mike Graham right here on Talk TV.

We have plenty still to do.

Peter Hitchens joins me.

I haven't seen him for a couple of weeks because we've both been at either ends of very different scenarios.

He was in prison and I was on holiday.

I think that tells you all you need to know about the dynamic between the two of us. But it's a very good morning to you.

Many people might think it should be the other way around.

Some people I'm sure would vote for me to go to jail, as indeed you would expect, particularly from the Twitter artie.

I do need to explain this.

Yes, of course.

It's a horrible slur I just put on that. It's all of us have to bear in mind the possibility that we might end up in unexpected places.

Yes.

For a Channel 4 series coming up in the autumn where they put five minor celebrities,

of whom I think I was the most minor and about 30 former prisoners and some some also some former prison

officers in a decommissioned prison and told us to also behave as if it was real.

Right. Rather effectively, actually, it was quite, in some ways quite frightening. Yes. I've read

your column about it. I missed, I missed your interview with Kevin last week.

But yeah, fascinating to see that.

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