Hit Girls (feat. Nora Princiotti)
Be There in Five
Kate Kennedy
4.9 • 7.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 June 2025
⏱️ 110 minutes
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Summary
This week, Kate is joined by Nora Princiotti (host of Every Single Album, author of Hit Girls) to talk about the women who built pop's shiniest decade, like Taylor, Britney, Avril, Ashlee, Beyonce, and beyond. First, they tackle the news that Taylor Swift now owns her masters, then discuss some thoughts about Reputation TV and TS12 clownery, and it doesn't take long for Kate to interject and defend her Be There in Five Holes in a Fence era. Then, Nora shares what inspired her new book Hit Girls they and chat about a variety of topics, like how artists such as TS redefined fandom and authorship in the digital age (and how her MySpace posts laid the groundwork for today's stan culture). They also discuss Avril Lavigne's not-like-other-girls brand, how Ashlee Simpson is correlated with why pop is finally being taken seriously, Max Martin's melodic math, and more. A must-listen for anyone obsessed with pop history, parasocial dynamics, or rereading their old Tumblr posts. Enjoy!
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| 0:00.0 | Hey Beth, did you know all of your favorite podcasts, including Be There and Five are on Amazon Music? |
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| 0:15.4 | Play the podcast Be There and Five on Amazon Music. Or if you're listening on your phone, just download the Amazon Music app and search Be Therein 5 and click follow. |
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| 0:24.4 | Now on to the episode. |
| 0:25.4 | Enjoy. |
| 0:54.8 | I'm so excited because you know my favorite thing to do on the podcast is to talk to other podcasters, especially ones I've wanted to have on for a while when there's an overlap of interest, a shared interest with not only me, but with you guys. In this case, it is, of course, Taylor Swift, but more broadly, pop pop music, the pop eight girls and her book that came out this week called Hit Girls that I |
| 0:59.5 | blurbed on the cover that you guys will absolutely love. And who I'm talking about is Nora |
| 1:03.0 | Prenciotti, who is the co-host of a podcast called Every Single Album that I think is under the |
| 1:08.5 | umbrella of The Ringer on Spotify. And they review all sorts |
| 1:11.7 | of albums, but I certainly was introduced via their Taylor Swift reviews of new albums, of re-records. |
| 1:19.7 | Turner co-host, Nathan, have such an compelling dynamic and an interesting balance of opinions |
| 1:24.6 | about Taylor Swift's discography, about her lyrics and music and |
| 1:29.2 | personal life. And I just love listening to them. And I've always wanted to have her on. So when |
| 1:33.5 | the opportunity arose to chat about her book and then for me to slide in, you know, 40 minutes |
| 1:38.5 | of talking about Taylor Swift before you, I had to shoot my shot. So yeah, we have a really fun |
| 1:43.8 | conversation. If you like the episode about |
| 1:45.8 | Addison Ray, like you'll love this book too because she also, she goes so much farther into like |
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