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TRASHFUTURE

histroy sent from my iphone feat. Paolo Gerbaudo

TRASHFUTURE

TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.7935 Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

We discuss the new Epstein revelations that show that jeevacation also had a day job as a kind of nefarious Forrest Gump, facilitating or gleefully observing a huge number of the events that made our world feel so irredeemable, connecting a world of post-Soviet and American oligarchs with European aristocrats, western financiers, and basically every intelligence agency. In the second half, we talk to sociologist Paolo Gerbaudo about Ellison and friends’ acquisition of TikTok USDS and what that means for politics and social media going forward. Get more TF episodes each week by subscribing to our Patreon here!   TF Merch is still available here!   *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s tour dates here:https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/liveshows Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)

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0:00.0

So this is once again a difficult week to kind of thread the comedic needle in that the news is Epsteinorama.

0:24.6

And we got to try and be like sensitive about the fact that this is about a sex trafficker and rapist and genuinely monstrous person who also was involved at every level of seemingly

0:41.8

almost every government and NGO in the world and also did not know how to work a phone keyboard.

0:47.5

I got to say, I think Forrest Gump paints a picture of a much better world where a Forrest Gump

0:53.4

is Forrest Gump. And I think Epstein being Forrest Gump globally a picture of a much better world where a Forest Gump is Forrest Gump.

0:54.4

And I think Epstein being Forrest Gump globally has been very, um, yeah, making,

1:00.0

making Forrest Gump a paedophile was not the sort of creative choice I would have made.

1:06.5

No, no, I don't, I don't think I would have said, hey, let's take, let's do Pito Gump. This is a great paedophile of history theory. God damn. Well, yeah, the end of history in the last pedophile, which is apparently Jeffrey Epstein. That's right. Which was Jeffrey Epstein. Jesus. Francis, Francis Fukiyama wasn't on the island, was he? Like, I don't know. I haven't like, I haven't like, you know, control seed his name. Well, while you introduce the podcast, I'll go and look and see if Francis Fukuyama's in the App Scene files. Welcome to Trash Future, the podcast where we are going to be talking about the new Epstein revelations in the first half. And then we're going to be talking to Apollo Garboldo from the Complutense University of

1:45.5

Madrid about the new American TikTok entity and what the political right gets from seizing

1:49.8

the means of posting.

1:50.8

Weirdly, I think these are kind of connected, different sides of the same coin in some ways.

1:54.7

And before we talk about Fukuyama, I do want to say, one of the few people who shows up

1:58.9

in the Epstein files and actually comes off better for it is Norman Finkelstein just being like, yeah, fuck you. I want nothing to do with you. Stop emailing me.

2:09.3

Yeah, sort of the reverse Elon Musk. Yeah, he's like, you're all disgusting and should be strangled. Fuck you.

2:15.1

Apparently also kind of the opposite of Noam Chomsky,

2:17.7

because like the running joke for a while

2:19.5

was that Noam Chomsky will respond to any email that you send him. Yeah, turns out that cut both ways. Turns out Nome Chomsky will also go to any island you invite him to. That just didn't come up as often. Whereas Norman Thinkelstein, it's just like, no, leave me alone. I'm staying on...

2:32.2

Where does he live on Saturn?

2:33.0

Does he live on Saturn Island?

2:34.1

Just like, I'm staying in Saturn Island.

2:35.4

I'm not going anywhere.

2:36.4

The good news is,

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