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Scam Goddess

Historical Pretendians w/ Franchesca Ramsey

Scam Goddess

Earwolf

Comedy, True Crime

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This week, Laci welcomes Franchesca Ramsey (Superstore) to break down the unbelievable apology from Elizabeth Hoover, a UC Berkeley professor who falsely claimed to be Native American for decades, only to reveal later that she is actually white. Plus, Laci opens up the Lizzie Scammer of Fame vault and adds Elizabeth Hoover to the ever-growing list of Elizabeth scammers. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Franchesca Ramsey: @chescaleigh Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://web.archive.org/web/20241217024127/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/04/a-professor-claimed-to-be-native-american-did-she-know-she-wasnt https://indianz.com/News/2022/04/22/young-native-woman-sounds-alarm-about-violence-in-indian-country/ https://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/tribal-news/2019-08-23/photographer-adam-sings-in-the-timber-wants-to-change-the-way-you-see-native-america https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity-equity/2023/05/08/berkeley-professor-admits-shes-white https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/berkeley-professor-apologizes-false-indigenous-identity-rcna83202 https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfchronicle.com%2Fopinion%2Fopenforum%2Farticle%2Fliz-hoover-uc-berkeley-jacqueline-keeler-19435430.php&psig=AOvVaw1dXaeexX-q6dALB4iQaQZu&ust=1749267536328000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBkQjhxqFwoTCLDhqcvv240DFQAAAAAdAAAAABBl

Transcript

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0:00.0

Scam! Cards, robbery, and fraud.

0:09.0

Scam! Cards. Robbery and fraud.

0:17.3

Scamp goddess.

0:19.3

What's poppingping Congregation?

0:21.8

Welcome back to another installment of the podcast

0:24.1

All About Robbery, Fraud, and Those Who Practices

0:26.6

With me, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess.

0:31.6

And y'all already know I'm very what?

0:35.0

Excited, yes, thrilled, elated, we lit. I have, honestly, at this point, she has to be

0:42.2

first lady of the church, okay? She sits in the front pew and she's allowed to wear hats.

0:50.3

Today we have a genius gal, my friend and a congregation darling on the show.

0:56.0

She's a comedian, actress, podcaster, and writer queen, okay?

1:00.0

You may have seen her in MTV's Decoded Superstore and shit white girls say to black girls.

1:07.7

That's such an iconic video.

1:09.9

You have many iconic videos. She's also a co-host of Wondry's podcast an iconic video. You have many iconic videos.

1:11.6

She's also a co-hosts of Wondry's podcast, Black History For Real.

1:16.5

Congregation, please welcome Francesca Ramsey to the show.

1:20.6

Yes.

1:22.0

Thanks for having me.

1:22.8

I think this is four, four, three, four?

1:26.4

At this point, you might be the let me let me hand you this paperwork

1:30.0

okay yeah i've been here a few times am i trying to trick you into being the host of this job i have

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