Historian Jill Lepore explores the Constitution and its interpretations in ‘We the People’
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🗓️ 19 September 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Last night, we took an in-depth look at what's known as the originalist interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. |
| 0:07.0 | Tonight, Jeff Bennett has a conversation with a historian who has a different view of America's most important governing document. |
| 0:14.5 | It's part of our On Democracy series about the range of perspectives about how our government should function, what led to this moment, and where the country goes next. |
| 0:25.5 | Originalism is often countered by the idea that the Constitution is a living, breathing, document |
| 0:30.8 | meant to be interpreted and changed along with the times. |
| 0:34.4 | Jillipur is a historian at Harvard University and author of the new book, |
| 0:38.6 | We the People, a history of the U.S. Constitution, and she joins us now. Thanks for being with us. |
| 0:43.9 | Oh, thanks so much for having me. Many conservatives, as you well know, they argue that the |
| 0:48.3 | Constitution should be read exactly as it was written, or at least as the framers understood |
| 0:53.5 | it in the late 18th century. |
| 0:55.7 | Why do you see that approach as flawed or even dangerous? |
| 1:00.0 | Well, their approach is, I think, a good faith attempt to interpret the Constitution. |
| 1:06.2 | Originalism is a judicial philosophy. |
| 1:09.3 | I happen to disagree with it as a judicial philosophy, but more importantly, |
| 1:12.9 | I disagree with it as a matter of history in the sense that one of the fundamental claims of |
| 1:17.7 | originalists is that originalism is original. And the historical record suggested it very much |
| 1:23.4 | is not. You could still defend it. You could still say, this is how I think we should interpret the |
| 1:27.6 | Constitution. But I don't think you can successfully argue the claim that it is how the |
| 1:32.1 | Constitution was originally intended to be interpreted. What do you say to those who argue that |
| 1:39.0 | originalism provides stability and protects against judicial activism? |
| 1:48.0 | Well, I think it's important to historicize originalism. |
| 1:51.1 | By that name, it doesn't emerge until 1980. |
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