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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Historian, conservationist and writer Betsy Gaines Quammen

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6853 Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2020

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Betsy Gaines Quammen is the author of the new book American Zion: Cliven Bundy, God & Public Lands in the West,which explores the intersection of religious belief and landscape. Quammen never set out to write about the Bundys, or Mormonism. But her interviews with Bundy family members and her exhaustive study of the history of the Latter Day Saints revealed a side of the anti-public lands movement that no other writer or scholar has even approached.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I think about the quote that you said yesterday the William Faulkner quote.

0:08.4

The past is not passed in the south.

0:10.4

They were talking about history is not the past, the past it's not even past.

0:14.6

Yeah, and that I think pertains so much to what we're seeing right now with the Bundy family.

0:22.1

If you ask Mike Lee, who's a senator from Utah, or the Bundies, they would say that the 10th Amendment

0:28.0

indicates that the government cannot own public land that it belongs to the states.

0:32.0

And that continually gets you

0:34.9

know sort of ruled against that we know that the federal government can own public

0:40.0

land. We paid for all these lands with blood and treasure and we turned down the

0:46.5

proposal by Brigham Young to create the state of Deseret stretching from Burns

0:51.2

Oregon down to the Mexican border.

0:53.0

It's like I'm with them in the defense of the Constitution.

0:56.5

But they can't change the Constitution to make it say something that they want to.

1:01.0

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1:07.8

Filson Company.

1:08.8

They help support the podcast and they support BHA and conservation all across America.

1:15.0

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1:24.2

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1:27.9

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1:31.4

checking it out. They have a vest that I'm particularly interested in I just

1:36.7

I roused at an old down vest out of a closet recently and was amazed at how effective it is to keep your torso

1:44.9

warm while letting your arms and legs run around and do their thing. So just

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