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Deadline: White House

“His own worst enemy”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Ms Now, The White House, Versant, Daily News, Government, Politics, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Nicolle Wallace

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2023

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses the ex-president’s own goal in his classified documents case, his new plans to dismantle the Justice Department and attack President Biden, increasing calls for violence from extremist circles following his indictment, presidential candidate Ron DeSantis’ own plan to tear down the DOJ and FBI, and more. Joined by: Glenn Thrush, Jackie Alemany, Jackie Alemany, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord, Miles Taylor, Charlie Savage, Harry Litman, Mara Gay, Rep. Eric Swalwell, Tim Miller, and Katty Kay.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's Valkyrie York. There's brand new reporting that drives home the fact that Donald

0:12.0

Trump is a Zoom-wreston enemy when it comes to his many, many, many legal problems and when it

0:17.6

comes to the indictment in the classified documents investigation, turning him from a disgraced,

0:22.5

twice impeached, once indicted ex-president into a disgraced, twice impeached, twice indicted

0:27.8

ex-president. In that case, he has no one to blame but himself. Washington Post reports that

0:32.8

late last year, a team Trump hit a fork in the road. A point at which Trump could have chosen

0:37.4

an option that very well may have avoided an indictment in the documents case. From that new reporting,

0:43.0

quote, one of Trump's new attorneys proposed an idea in the fall of 2022. The former president's

0:49.1

team could try to arrange a settlement with the Justice Department. The attorney Chris Kaice

0:53.4

wanted to quietly approach justice to see if he could negotiate a settlement that would preclude

0:58.6

charges, hoping AG Merrick Garland and the Department would want an exit ramp to avoid prosecuting

1:04.4

a former president. Kaice would hopefully take the temperature down, he told others, by promising

1:09.8

a professional approach and the return of all documents. But Trump was not interested

1:15.2

after listening to other lawyers who urged a more pugilistic approach. So Kaice never approached

1:20.7

the prosecutors, according to three people briefed on the matter. Instead, Trump listened to the

1:26.7

advice of conservative activist Tom Fitton, the very same guy, who before Election Day pushed for

1:32.0

Trump to falsely declare victory and call for the counting of ballots to stop. Once again,

1:37.6

from that new post reporting, quote, Trump time and time again rejected the advice from lawyers

1:42.8

and advisors who urged him to cooperate. And instead took the advice of Tom Fitton,

1:48.3

the head of the conservative group to Disho Watch, and a range of others who told him he could

1:52.9

legally keep the documents and should fight the Justice Department. Trump had often sight

1:58.2

fit into others and Fitton told some of Trump's lawyers that Trump could keep the documents,

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