His Hand Will Guide Us Through the Darkness: Luke Pell and Jack Deere
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
Jesus Calling
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🗓️ 16 January 2020
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
None of us is guaranteed a pain-free life. But when we can’t see the right way to move forward, that’s where God steps in to take us by the hand and leads us out of the dark. On today’s episode, Army veteran and Bachelorette contestant Luke Pell and author/speaker Jack Deere share some of their painful moments—an unexplainable, near-death experience; watching a spouse slip into an alcohol addiction; losing a child—events that almost caused them to give up. But each man reminds us: when it feels like we have nothing left to cling to, God is there. And He’s ready to guide us through those experiences so that later, we can support others who may not be able to find their way out, either.
Links, Products and Resources Mentioned:
Jesus Always Family Prayer Calendar
West Point - United States Military Academy
Even in Our Darkness: The Story of Beauty in a Broken Life book
Nona Jones, Facebook’s Global Faith-Based Partnerships
Interview Quotes:
“As you become an adult, you have to figure out what your faith really means to you.” - Luke Pell
“If you're not growing and getting stronger and [going in] the direction of your goals, you're going to be digressing in the wrong direction.” - Luke Pell
“One of the biggest victories in my faith was that I came back to a spot where I was completely surrendering my plans and my expectations back to God, and what purpose I was put on this earth for, instead of [wondering] what I could get out of this world and what people thought of me.” - Luke Pell
“Only one thing does matter: it’s the legacy that you left, the inspiration that you left in the world, the people that you inspired, your faith that you were able to show to the rest of the world around you, and the lives that you were able to change.” - Luke Pell
“Then God shows up and comes alongside you through somebody [who] gives you inspiration, or however that message comes, ‘You're gonna be okay. You're gonna make it through.’” - Luke Pell
“I've really learned to appreciate those moments of uncertainty, when you're feeling more alone and you're feeling like you don't know what tomorrow holds. . . . Those are the times when I get the most direct purpose from God in my life.” - Luke Pell
“We have to really stay true to ourselves and true to our faith, and keep that faith walk intact, regardless of what the rest of the world is throwing at you every day. The more we're thinking about the rest of the world and what they're thinking about us, the less we're thinking about what God has for us and where our faith walk should be.” - Luke Pell
“[My] childhood produced this desire to keep really tight control in my life. I blocked out some of the stuff and thought, Feelings are bad. Stay in your mind. Don't go to your feelings. That was the hardening effect that my childhood had on me.” - Jack Deere
“When you're seventeen years old and everybody you've ever loved has left you, to hear that God won't leave you is just too good to be true.” - Jack Deere
“The only Person who never needed any help chose twelve helpers. Why? For the pleasure it gave Him to love those twelve apostles and to teach them to love what He loved.” - Jack Deere
“Although I had plenty of my own shame, I didn't even think in those categories. I just thought, You have an unpleasant feeling. Just get rid of it. I lived out of my mind, not out of my feelings.” - Jack Deere
“I began to see that the most important thing in life is feeling the affection of God, actually being friends with Him. We love Him because He first loved us.” - Jack Deere
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| 0:00.0 | My story, whatever that is, now whatever it will be in 20 years, for that to change lives, |
| 0:09.6 | inspire people to overcome adversity, |
| 0:12.8 | inspire people to know that they're not alone, |
| 0:15.2 | and inspire people to just be patient |
| 0:19.8 | and always look up and know that God has a plan and a purpose for their life |
| 0:24.3 | beyond what they feel in terms of vulnerability or anxiety or depression or not |
| 0:31.3 | feeling sufficient for the expectations of the other people around them or who's |
| 0:36.3 | looking at them or their audience or all these things. |
| 0:39.4 | You know God's love is sufficient and that's all that they need. |
| 0:44.0 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. |
| 0:46.6 | This week's episode features two men who have experienced pain and trauma in their lives, |
| 0:51.2 | yet still profess that they could see the beauty of God's hand as he led them through in their |
| 0:55.0 | drama in their lives, and still professed that they could see the beauty of God's hand |
| 0:57.0 | as he led them through the darkness. |
| 0:56.0 | TV reality show star Luke Pell |
| 0:58.0 | and author and speaker Jack Deer. |
| 1:08.1 | As a contestant on ABC's The Bachelor reality show, Luke Pell, found himself propelled into sudden fame and recognition as he began to be watched by the |
| 1:12.1 | world at large, often being publicly praised |
| 1:14.8 | one day and harshly criticized the next, he found himself dealing with feelings of |
| 1:19.1 | anxiousness and depression. |
| 1:21.4 | Luke relied on the faith that had gotten him through a near death |
| 1:24.4 | experience following his service in the military to keep his heart focused on God |
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