The war in Ukraine has now been raging for more than a week.

Russia's invasion is dominating the news.

So what are all the different dimensions that the media needs to be covering now?

And how is warfare being reshaped by the digital age

with instantaneous access to all sorts of video and information from the front lines?

Well, those are a couple of the questions for this week's reliable sources podcast.

Let's go ahead and cue the music.

I'm Brian Stalter and this weekly podcast is our chance to go more in depth,

talking with media leaders and newsmakers about how the news gets made.

This week I wanted to bring in a veteran foreign policy reporter and analyst.

Someone who can talk through the scenarios of this war can help us understand

just how destabilizing this has been for the world.

And what the impact of our phones and our computers and what the impact of the cyber war is as well.

So I turned to Thomas Friedman of the New York Times.

The acclaimed op-ed columnist who writes about foreign affairs, globalization and technology.

His past books include The World is Flat.

Thank you for being late and many more.

And he's written a couple of columns in the past week that are going to inform this conversation.

The first one I had the idea that this is world war wired due to the proliferation of digital devices.

He also wrote about three possible scenarios for how this war could end.

And as you're about to hear, he is deeply concerned about what's happening and thinks

if anything, people are underestimating the consequences of this conflict.

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